most of a conversation may be talking to myself
and so I go it alone to be here…
(do you remember that high school
essay where you wrote somewhere in the middle ‘I bet you never read this anyway’…
well we seem to have reached that era… let’s call it the age of the blog!)
and
…as mentioned elsewhere blogwise…
I’m interested in what Stephen
Spender described as the Beethoven method in that fifties essay about the
making of a poem – the work made from the pieces rather than having holistic
beginning (the Mozart method)… I think that is my native inclination too
but
Always two ways to look at the thing/anything
there’s the idea of sculpture as building up
versus chipping away …
but you can always take turns at the thing
Lagging behind is a good way of getting a look up
ahead at what’s going on without necessarily going under the wheels…
particularly helpful in the present circs – I mean during corona capers – where
you wouldn’t want to be ‘ahead of the curve’
… digging a hole and filling it in – I suppose you
could call that a life’s work – it can be done for fitness too, eventually you
find a fit (have one, or both)
… building does seem to be addictive…it has been
for me… I guess it’s some kind of compensation for that feeling anyone could
have of being just a passenger on Spaceship Earth…
Just! Just the most amazing cosmic privilege we
know of matter ever having
… life plus consciousness … and you can’t see
where this is going
The planet’s always going round and always in more
than one way at once (hence for instance weather)… and I take that as a kind of
role model …building is merely a matter of comfort
… you should have enough shelves to place yourself
among the right books
But not so many that you can’t find them…
The two paths things … and stop with Frost in
those deep snow woods just having a wonder with it all …
… the trick for me is not getting stuck on one
side or the other… (the building up, the chipping away, the Beethoven, the
Mozart)… I mean to keep it shifting
And by making myself do it every day I at least
create the illusion (for myself) of getting better at it
take a turn around the garden
make your way around a tree
never let the old heart harden
take a turn with me
take your turn around the forest
make a way around the world
be just one voice in the chorus
where every little creature’s curled
(those three chords of eternal return!)
Is it a garden or is the bush? Can it be helped or can’t it?
i.e. a thing that requires tending or a way that
you happen along, hoping not to die of exposure, starvation or walking into an
unexpected fire, flood, other cataclysm
… call me a wimp but I’m sitckin’ with the garden
in time beyond
for godsbother
let’s cook up beginning
here’s how it goes
as if we were mere tunes of the clock
still with these pages to do
all these birds who sing at my door
feathered to a fault
those who are nowhere
are with us all ways
it’s time beyond I tend
so lovely to be at the end of a line
to be no one’s ancestor
here’s my place of pride
as if I were this volume in the garden
and only these lines to write
Let me also say – from having taught creative
writing as a career – that the idea of inspiration is unhelpful bullshit in
general except in as far as it’s good to keep breathing… everything is from
somewhere, not because there’s nothing new under the sun, as for that dour old
fuck in Ecclesiastes… what’s under
the sun is relentlessly surprising – hence subject matter … we’re not visited
by angels, we’re visited by experience, by memory,
be presence to the moment… we’re the ones who are
visiting … and try to keep a record … it’s helpful for ourselves at least…
Two ways to go
why two?
why two?
And then there’s the two ways view versus any
other way… does that get us off the hook?
Let a hundred flowers bloom
I like the still
image …
reminds me of the Compton Mackenzie story Whiskey Galore
… maybe out of the war an enormous amount of mind
altering substance will simply wash ashore –
and it will be poetry
And as they say – happy days!
… will they ask after us? – our difficult duty is
to not give a toss
I think we’ve reached that age
My philosophy is that nothing is ever finished … all works a draft until we’re gone
Which, I guess, is a variant of the perfect is the enemy of the good or just
do it!
The thing I hate most about proofreading is the
idea that you’re not supposed to change the poem
… I think a poem is the thing that changes
because it changes us…
I might not want the punters to see it that way
but that’s how it is with me
I don’t want to spend time with my work without
having a fiddle…
It’s good to be happy where you are…
If we have to do any striving, I think we should
settle there
…
Kafka’s gate closing before the law
and that imperial messenger who can’t make it and Zeno’s arrow falling by the
wayside … and now there’s a virus chasing after us all ... on the one hand it’s
like they’re upping the ante… on the other it’s like the music’s slowing down
and hopefully when it stops we’ll each still have a chair…
make nightmares into poetry! one of the many duties!
actually I did write a song last year
they’re burning down my house again
they do it while I sleep
I lie there like a corpse
and dream
and in the dream I weep
they’re burning down my house again
they do it every night
I dream the wish
and they upend it
with greed and hate and lies
it’s me me me and all I deserve
I just play around with words
they’re telling me the house is not on fire
but they’re burning down my house again
I see it with my own eyes
they’re raising up the sea as well
they’re dialling up the bile
they fuck this whole wide world of ours
and I think what I’ll… what I’ll…
I drive a car
I eat red meat
they burn the coal
just for me
I’m deep in my hypocrisy
nevertheless I can see
this is what happens to the meek
they’re burning down my house again
they do it while I sleep
I lie there like a corpse
and dream
and dream
and dream
A one chord wonder
… I mean three chords is probably
overdoing it, don’t you think?
It was in the bushfire midst and our
coal-loving government seemed to be doing nothing … and now we’re all
cheerfully distracted by disease from the fact that they’re doing nothing and
going on loving coal… and burning down the house…
It is good
that we don’t all write the same way … and even better that we’re not all
writing the same poem / song .. the something new under the sun – that is the
miracle of art, and it is also the miracle of language … a finite set of
every-changing signs that allows for infinite creativity…
Which brings me to the line!
Which could lead us to vexed question of
punctuation (if we wanted to go there)
The line! Many have toed it to be where they are!
And some have towed it away …
it is kind of a breath
kept short best
tending more phrase than clause
because okay poetry can be/is writing
but it’s always speech first for me
and we don’t speak in sentences
except we’re lawyers (or we’d like to be)
but okay – on paper or on the screen –
I always want to ask ‘can you hear me?’
… travel by string
on a windy trill
climb to the tree
there already
reach out to fall
just bed to catch
take a tumble
in the machine
…
But I can’t agree with WCW that a poem is a machine
(machines can be a little … mechanistic)
but I do agree with the nothing sentimental thing
no baggage NOT WANTED ON THE VOYAGE
… one keeps returning to this
Which tells us something about the nature of travels
(is that like Eliot’s poetry as the escape from emotion?
or can we stick with Wordsworth’s spontaneous overflow’?
… more proof poetry’s whatever you want
… Dylan Thomas’s ‘whatever makes your toes twinkle’)
… it’s a nice idea to take for a walk – the machine conceit I
mean
and I like my lines on the way
a kind of track-making
salute to all doors
the lines afoot - the effort in - the heart come racing
till
in fear of where I am
and might be otherwise
smoke rising from my
ears
a sign
and breathlessly up in
the work
.
under own spell
gone
I am constructing the
flower machine
and how many words
till it’s said
crawl into these least
and hide
here for my vanish
and how about you
now you’ve come along
this far?
I’m telling this to no
one
you see how far I’m
gone
…
I think I have as many short line poems as long, … as many lyrics
as rants (if you prefer to look at it that way), maybe in between too
… anyway, I tend not to think of it that way… I think a lot more
of my stuff is lyrical than ever makes it to the strings or into a tune …
Punctuation for signposts and have your wicked way with them…
Punctuation is the part of the poem that is 100% writing
(whatever it advises or suggests)… it is an available tool
…it just annoys me when poets follow the rules of prose
punctuation just because they’re there… because they are OBEDIENT to rules…
That, is not, in my view, how poets should show themselves to be
in poems…
But I guess this is one of the sets of two opposed approaches in
poetry – the embrace of ambiguity and the flight from ambiguity… I play around
with both but definitely favour the former more, which is in turn favoured by
minimal (or even zero) punctuation … if the reader WANTS sentences then the
reader can jolly well work out for themselves where they begin and end… and
maybe the reader will also then have the pleasure of going back and reading
another way ?
But the bottom line for me in all of this is that poetry is
fundamentally made of speech
(elevated, denigrated, ‘such as men do use’ or whatever) and
speech is made up of sounds and of phrases and of clauses … so sentence
structure is a kind of shackling to another agenda… perhaps an unavoidable
agenda, but not an agenda that needs to go unchallenged…
e e Cummings, Don Marquis and others opened up a path that
remains available … why should we ignore that?
Why would that be not for us?
I like to see speech creeping into prose as much as possible too
(hence I suppose my so much ellipsis) … I guess the bottom line though must be use what you choose – it’s up to you BUT
exercise the choices available … don’t be taken for granted…
…
I’m not sure what you’re rejecting when yr rejecting the
post-structuralist project,
… and that’s because there is no ‘post-structuralist project’
(except from the point of view of over-zealous name-the-era critics… you know
the mob who always always get paid so much more and live in so much nicer
houses than the people who create art of pretty well any kind
[of course I’m talking averages here … and no disrespect to Ken
Done, whose work I like and who seems to be a decent sort of bloke as far as I
know … which is not very far])
BUT
I smell a straw dog here… maybe a whole pack of them, turning
over the bins and getting into the garbage
… and where there’s a straw dog there’s fear
and where there’s fear ask – is there paranoia?
so
‘post-structuralist project’?
To me it’s just zeitgeist stuff… it’s not a doctrine or even an
ideology, it’s just an attempt at an acknowledgement of where we’re at
What we do with where we’re at is another question …
How much has the way poetry’s gone got to do with post-structuralism? Well, hopefully poets are aware of the era in
which they find themselves…
Like modernism and post-modernism
Structuralism and post-structuralism
are simply epoch-framing guideposts for understanding where ideas
and expressions of art come from and might be headed
I’m very grateful for the contributions to thought of people like
Barthes and Deleuze and Kristeva and Derrida and Foucault and many many others
… who are hard enough to fit into a sentence because apart from writing in
French and being so frequently misunderstood, their main characteristic would
be disagreeing with each other about so much …
the idea that thinkers
who’ve somehow unwittingly acquired this tag given by certain
pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey academics are together conspiring to wreck poetry or
deprive humans of selfhood or something or other … is frankly … silly
Anyway which structuralism are we talking about … American? European?
If we go back to Saussure
…yes all that binarism (langue/parole) was a bit limited and a
bit of an optimistic wrap and so deserving of critique
BUT
I can’t imagine what my / what our understanding of language and
of culture would be without Saussure
…
If I had to follow anyone there I’d follow Merleau-Ponty (who
anyway mainly denies the langue/parole binarism)
but who wants to be a follower?
Having a crack at the ‘poststructuralist project’ is a bit like
saying ‘I don’t the nineteen seventies’ … fair enough, a question of style… but
the nineteen seventies are not a program or a plot or a movement or an ideology
anymore than post-structuralism is…
… asked to take sides issue by issue is another question… I
would, every time, go for Saussure’s priority to the spoken word, I think
Derrida’s claims for the anteriority of writing are an unhelpful, a
distracting, metaphor…
Whether it’s the case that there’s a cohort of cultural studies
academics who get your goat for some reason or other
… that’s another question … but I’m not wishing to conjure up
another straw dog here for a replacement
…
We’ll end up discussing the idea of ‘political correctness’ if we
go further down this track … and that would be fun too…
I think there’s always going to be a problem with the attempt to
name the epoch you’re in
And these big name games – they’re part of a grand narrative approach
to understanding the history and development of thought … so a little
self-defeating, is your objective in using them is to get beyond grand
narratives…
All this reminds me of this wonderful (1898) set of World’s Library of Great Literature I have in the shedbrary…
Very accurate – as per our contemporary judgements – well into
the beginning of the nineteenth century … but then alas, gradually beginning to
paint an incomprehensible (to us) picture of the later nineteenth century… the
epoch is rarely right about itself… the early history of the Nobel Prize for
Literature is nicely illustrative of the idea… though certain they did pick
some winners…
Just think… this could have been the Elizabethan age, and at the
beginning of our current queen’s reign, that idea was attempted but it just
didn’t wash – not that there was no monarchy of the divine or absolute kind
(there hadn’t been for centuries), just that it didn’t suit present
self-reflective epochal purposes…
To the specific
question of the fractured self…all I can say is the selfhood is something
modernity and
now the contemporary zeitgeist has
fractured… je est
un autre!
This has been
going for some time now!
And that the
illusions of individualism that the western world has suffered from and
retrofitted to
ancient antecedents (for instance in Greece) are overblown, fanciful,
unsustainable
… and where does
that leave authorship and literary ownership and the idea of plagiarism
and the common
intellectual property of the ages and the times… I think TS Eliot re-set the
rules with The Waste Land – call that an artefact
of Modernism – and it’s gone on from
there… worth
noting too that ‘intellectual property’ in the world today has bugerall to do
with literature
or any kind of art
… but I drift…
the bottom line
in all of this is that we are of our time
…the real question from the point of view of the poetry that you
and I both value is whether the fractured self of our times is less (or more)
of an emotional issue/entity/intensity…
and I would say
no…
I think all of this is bringing us perilously close to questions
about the value and function of
poetry … and how these are
exercised … live questions in my view … because I think
poetry’s vocation is to be
at the cutting edge of the sayable … and then some…
… fractured
selves of fractured times… remember fractured
fairytales? Our postmodern
childhoods!
Our times are
pretty fucked up
(I know they all
say that)
In such a way
that political engagement is in fact not avoidable
This does not
mean everyone writing the ‘I hate Trump’ poem
(though a little
venting never goes astray… well, I suppose it can go astray…)
is advised or
helpful or good
…
it means telling the wake up story … it means the slap in the eye
And if we think
that’s what poetry always did and always had to do
then I hope we
are in tune with our times !
Has there been a poetry that is cynical and clinical and detached
and laughs at the garden and the bush because it actually has no place for
living things other than the hu(man) ego – well, yes there has, but I think
that nitty gritty city ditty is on the wane now…
a cynical sort of a smartarse poetry – a poetry of the in-joke –
has its own natural vanishing point … and there’s no sun shining there…
Has there been an academic kind of creative writing school poetry
that prizes obscurity and in-jokes too – yes, there has, but I don’t think it
every really caught on outside the university and I do think it probably served
some useful purposes behind the ivy…
And actually the rarefied pretend contexts of academic creativity
only mirror other illusions of other artworlds (with the difference that
they’re generally better, or at least more consistently, funded)
… but I risk whole kennels of straw dogs here, so I’ll stop while
I’m ahead…
Poetry is – whatever else – a very variable kind of mirror and
means of showing us what’s wrong … so one needs to be careful not to shoot the
messenger here…
… grand
narrative unity deserves to be threatened in a way that must us uncomfortable
We don’t live in
a fairytale now and no one ever did … likewise epic, ballad, name yr
genre… what is
the relationship between life and genre ?
how is genre lived?
… getting too close to any of these questions frankly often
results in awful poetry
Jumpy obscurity has its place …it can be a kind of challenge (can
you keep up?)… there should be no limits to the modes of moods of which poetry
is and will be capable … so I am loath to proscribe
…
But I think we agree about poetry and feeling
… it don’t mean a thing if you
can’t feel a thing !
…
The attack on the pathetic fallacy was well founded (although
Ruskin does seem to have been a complete prick… or maybe I watched the wrong
movie?)
Oscar Wilde’s witty little ‘all bad poetry is sincere’ (‘springs
from genuine feeling’) certainly hit a nail on the head
but not only does this not mean that not all sincere poetry is
bad
… it doesn’t mean that good poetry isn’t also sincere
and it doesn’t make sincerity a bad thing…
I’ve always said to people who want to be teachers –
If you can’t bring yourself to
encourage people, don’t bother … that is fundamentally what the job is
And to people who want to write poetry I say –
If you can’t bring yourself to
mean anything with real feeling, then don’t bother…… that is fundamentally what
the job is
So though we’re coming from quite different theoretical spaces/
assumptions
I think we broadly agree about why we do poetry
I have a poetry passport
the sun most overhead
as on its way gone
o wilderness mine
and breeze beginning
making tracks
and yet survive
far and away
a lone and level stretch
where I’m now
sneer, wrinkle
bring you revelation
antique that I am
Maybe changing the world is a bit of a grandiose goal… better to
say waking the reader/listener … or I like Auden’s line –
‘The greatest writer cannot see through a
brick wall but unlike the rest of us, he does not build one.’
Does
that make Auden a deconstructionist?
Increasing confusion and complexity in poetry, fragmentation of
self, unbelief, distrust, casting of doubts on everything – these are all
things of our time – things poetry
cannot help but reflect
but for me
poetry’s more important role is to make sense
to make sense of the complexity
and in all of this to have a heart
… it doesn’t need to explain itself as much as we’re doing here …
that’s because poetry is better than the explanation of poetry
(and if it isn’t, then it failed – it didn’t work)
(remember Pascal– the heart
has its reasons of which reason can know nothing;
Remember Michaux – it is
not the crocodile’s job to yell watch out for the crocodile)
…one way is to make a picture
…a nother way is to turn the picture upside down inside out give
it a shake
Or in the words of Brecht’s last poem:
And I always thought: the very
simplest words
Must be enough. When I say what things are like
Everyone's heart must be torn to
shreds.
That you'll go down if you don't
stand up for yourself
Surely you see that.
Simplest words! … that’s the point!
That’s why working with translators is so important …
Meaning is no longer yours once you let your cat out of the bag
but what’s the point of making a poem if you don’t know what you
mean
and
If you’re not moved by the poem then what was the point of it ?
… and this goes for the maker as well
… of course you can overdo that … like Dickens weeping over the
ends of his own novels when he re-read them …
It’s good to make your characters live but there is a risk of
going to far, with that, with anything…
Except that I’ve always thought in poetry, a good principle is
when you’ve gone too far – go further!
…
Truthful answers will always be good …
truth was
always past
the words
but had no
other house
one followed it
hounds and all
whiff weakening
the skin pricked up
sometimes a growl
or any little confidence
could yet betray
the truth
and sometimes
you could taste
it too
sometimes swallow
it could come back up
that was and is
the bitter truth
mainly though
gut's incidental
truth's dense with verbiage
cultivated
and here's the hard cure
some lives are
to tell the truth
until it's gone
be lost
to find a way
.
UTS was such a breath of fresh air after
Sydney Uni, after the dread Woolley Building – such a breath of fresh air that
politics was possible, that what you were studying had some relationship to a
real world with presence and meaning related to things I cared about in the
here and now… I think it was where I first heard of Lyotard, and Bachelard and
Foucault and Lacan and a cast of thousands and I was grateful for that… an
opening of theoretical horizons…
I felt the hundred flowers were blooming
there… I really never felt I was being subjected to any doctrinaire orthodoxy
of any kind… that was mid-eighties… post BA, Dip Ed and an MA in communications
I never finished at Macquarie, which thinking back on had had a kind of
bureaucratic orthodoxy to it … probably why I never finished… though I learned
a lot … and yes, marvellous that it was all free… and certainly would not have
happened otherwise… so thanks Gough, yes
… no thanks to John Dawkins though who’d
sat in my office at Macquarie and when I interviewed him swore blind (all on
the record) that a Labor government would NEVER introduce tuition fees…
Water under an ancient bridge by now!
… on politics more generally –
I grew up with a certain amount of
background DLP lunacy and an uncle in Opus Dei, so I appreciated all the
Marxism I could get… and poetry… Ginsberg, Kerouac… these were my heroes after
I recovered from TS Eliot…
yes, I think Marx’s main problem was not
being much of a seer … in terms of understanding the world around him – what a
quantum leap forward from the best available theories! As with Darwin! As with Dickens! And yes as with Saussure a little later! But
yes, after Christianity, perhaps Marxism stands out as the most misused message/understanding
in the history of ideas… I guess Dante has Karl in his own little circle
watching Kim Jong Un on an endless loop at yumcha – over a caption that reads
‘Beware what you wish for’…
… anyway, I can tell you from deep and
long experience of Humanities academia, in conferences around the world over
decades, that universities and humanities bits of them are not run by lefty
ideologues… though many the right wing ideologue would have you think this … this
is conspiracy theory stuff
…of course there is a left in the academy
and it has its doctrinaire characters and there are orthodoxies there as on the
right, but the idea that this left you imagine is generally in control
everywhere is quite fanciful
…there
are at least as many right wing dickheads running the show as left wing
dickheads
… I have seen snobby
conservatism triumph over open minds on university committees (and especially
hiring ones) more times than I care to remember, and certainly a lot more times
than the other way around. (I’m talking from early eighties at Macquarie till
quite recently… so, not hearsay but experience in the room over forty years)
(I should say I do recognize a definitional problem here … because
you would probably call left wing the right wing [i.e. ultra conservative,
intolerant] operatives of the Chinese Confucianist Party (you know, the party
that’s ruled for the last 2,500 years there)… I don’t think there’s anything
left or Marxist/Leninist about any of them … just one more dynasty in the
empire that happened to sprout from a peasant uprising against a previous
corrupt dynasty that needed overthrowing … not to mention real live foreign
oppressors who made you take opium for a hundred years …)
oops… off on a bit of a tangent for fun there!
… and though the personal is
always political, let us not forget the arbitrary nature of clique-iness, of
matey-ness (and the fact that it tends – whatever oppositional exceptions there
may be – to favour privilege, in terms of class and gender and race and more)…
so the private school lads giving the gig to one of their own is a cycle that
takes some breaking… so the blackfella who never gets a job and who keeps
getting locked up by the almost-all-white cops is a cycle that takes some
breaking
…
A poem should not mean but be???
– beautiful poem – but
Macleish was so wrong – not mean but be !
that is garbage! And disingenuous garbage at that! I’m not aiming for
the museum!
poetry
comes
from a shallow place
so
easily missed
like
marks passed over
too
small to see
it’s
never unexpected –
everyone’s
hoping for rhythm, for rhyme
until
the wall appears
then
we first notice
these
women and men
girls
and boys
animals
every one
shaped
like sledgehammers
with
poetry on their backs
bashing
head against brick
until the message is clear
yes all writing is communication … no getting
around that
all sorts of forms of communication
all kinds of games too
yr in yr out yr up yr next
coming, ready or not
Wittgenstein’s useful here
… I find the cult of him curious (not that it’s
current now, but when it was)
Of course there are private languages
here we are in one right now
of course those private languages not
possible without the public ones
… and as to the limits of my world?
Yes we press on into and over
horizons … cling to last planks when the ship has gone down
So curious how sociolinguistics and philosophy of language have
managed to avoid each other in the Anglo-American academy… when essentially
hunting the same prey…
…
…as for this worded world of ours and how it rubs
up against the wordless one –
(or think of it as consciousness and its other – purusha and prakitri in Indian philosophy)
Szymborska’s ‘In Praise of Self-Deprecation’ seems to say it
all …
… sometimes we do get to glimpse the outlines of the cage – a
physical one or the mind forged manacles, and then we have, as poets, a duty to
disclose…
And as for political poetry generally – Auden wrote some of the
best in my view – especially ‘Spain’ –
yesterday all the past but today the struggle!
Poetry is about commitment
About drawing lines that need to be drawn
About making us see what we won’t otherwise see/know/feel/touch…
It is the wake up call!
All of that is political – political in the broad sense – which is
the sense that matters…
How many of us are there for it?
Always a fair question
On the general political framing questions
I think we can agree all dictatorships – all tyrannies – are evil
and destructive and tend to end badly, often in worse tyrannies … I think the
guillotine is the best ever symbol of this…
The best systems so far as far as I can see are the Scandinavian
type of social democracy … or NZ’s not bad in a few ways
… and we in Oz have a lot of the magic formula – like medicare
frinstance … and we had more once … free education frinstance…
As far as democracy itself is concerned, I think the two party
system is doomed … what NZ and what Germany and other places have is infinitely
better … the answer is that democracy needs to be as participatory as possible,
as local as possible…
This current crisis could not be a better demonstration that the
world needs saving from corrupt plutocracies, from empires in drag…
Capitalism is a wild and mean beast
And ungoverned leaves everyone fucked
but an economy without ‘business’
- without the motive to make better – is not an economy at all
… no point in redistributing nothing … so it’s all about balance in
my view … finding the golden mean and
From each according to their
ability, to each according to their need
Now who said that? Kinda catchy!
Do what we can
Every gift an affliction also… and I think that’s another angle
from which poetry needs to be considered… that it is something we cannot help
but do… that we will be unwell and less useful if we attempt not to do it …
points about who’s hearing us / who can hear us / are apposite…
but I think for many of us by now habits are too ingrained
… we simply have to write what we have to write and it doesn’t
matter much whether anyone’s there or not
… I’m so glad Emily Dickinson and Walt Whitman kept on … and Blake
and …
.
Oh a last hurrah for politics with
(so-called) ‘political correctness’! There’s a lot of fun to be had there!
correct
1
he really doesn't mean
what he says
he just comes out with
these things
some
times
he's not trying to
offend anyone
just a little set in
his ways
please don't pay any
attention
he wasn't referring to
you
you're not one of that
kind
it's not all about you
some people have too
thin a skin
some people can't take
a joke
it's creeping – this
correctness
like some people know
how
not to offend
like the rest of us are
fools
we just tell is how it
is
we just say the truth
it's the first thing
that comes into your
head
boong and nigger
poof and yid
don't they see
themselves
for what they are?
they're all too
sensitive by half
can't they take it?
we don't mean anything by
it
I'm just saying
and then there's one
of us
so sour – calls us out
for just words
(one of us – that gets
my goat)
let's call them
out
for – arrogance, is it?
for thinking they know
it all
there's too much
history in some
it's like they know how
words must mean
what's wrong with a
little lynching?
it's too good for them!
you feel dumb
they talk down to you
with knowing what you
are
to say just what we all
say
everyone says
what everyone knows
it needn't be behind
their backs
I call a spade a spade
how useless the
disabled are
that's exactly what!
and let's all laugh at
mental illness
isn't it funny the way
a girl throws!
the other tribes are
jungle dark
you simply cannot trust
those monkeys
we know they're dirty,
dangerous
we don't mean to offend
we know about the
baby's blood
know all about their
vile disease
and worst of all are
turban-heads
saw yours off as soon
as blink
their slaves are women
they won't drink
I know what I know
and we'll show them
who's right and wrong
it's like my daddy said
to me
once wogs were far away
but they're next door
now, these hoardes
so many to a room, and
mean
and once an x always an
x
and no, I don't know y
never the twain shall
I have a secret ballot
you won't hear a peep
out of me
2
we only pretend equal,
the same
your skin or all
between the legs
my need
your want
what's mine's not yours
and gimme gimme
how I came here's not
your affair
out of my way
shortie
fatty
girlie
dog
this is the real world
get used to it
kingdom
power
and
glory
all present
and correct
3
what does it mean?
that we shouldn't care
about the feelings of
others?
that it's best to laugh
at them?
to taunt until well
let's see what happens
pick at the scab till
blood comes
you mustn't think rape
or racism's funny
you mustn't mock
conscientious belief
oh pardon me if I
indulge such strictures
and tighten the noose
around your freedom
which, forgive me,
would seem to be
'just screw them before
they screw me'
yes, the world and we
could be better than that
it's no sort of
nanny-ism to think
that others deserve the
respect I expect
though yes, a world
that way would be safer
4
'politically correct'
like a joke from the
seventies
come back to haunt us
perhaps we were a little
doctrinaire
but we could take the
piss
we could barely tear
ourselves from the mirror
those who have hoped
for a better world
who gave it their
hearts and minds
in the dark
as long as the dim
deny hope
in favour of their
fondest lies
which all amount to
'I am better
why can't the lesser
just comply?'
what gormless fools
these bigots are
take away the mirror
then they will see
actual others
please correct me if
I'm wrong
laughter is always at
someone's expense
then let it begin with
being at mine
and let's go on that
way
forever and ever
amen
…
political correctness
identity politics
…
seems to me these are just tags (highly motivated tags) purposed to paint
people into corners…
and
the people being painted into the corners are the ones who tend to have a
practical understanding of what’s wrong where they are and what’s wrong with
the world… and what could practically could be done about it … these people are
not in charge anywhere right now… nor is it disingenuous of me to say that they
have not been generally in charge in universities (humanities or elsewhere)…
‘the
left’s natural inclination…’ – spare me please
…
this is David Attenborough describing some curious woodland creature?
Everyone
should be given ago … we build better societies by being INCLUSIVE… that’s certainly my policy
with Flying Islands but I certainly make an effort to ensure we have enough
women and NESB persons in each batch, and I have certainly noticed, adding up
the numbers each year, that it would be easy to let it all be dominated by
white blokes and particularly of our vintage…
…
now you could say well that’s just because we’re better poets and let’s not let
standards slip but uniformly apply same measures of quality to all … that would
be fine except there are no universal measures applicable (never were and never
will be) AND the provision of role models is a ley to making it possible for
the under-represented mobs to get a go in the end…
Or
is positive discrimination the problem? Or quotas for women or minorities? These may be necessary temporary measures…
The
relationship of these kinds of things (attitudes, policies) to the
incarceration of Aboriginal people is simply that some kinds of unfairness need
addressing at a collective level … otherwise the white boys keep getting the
jobs and the black boys keep getting locked up… but surely the aim is to create
a society where there isn’t entrenched disadvantage for particular groups of
people
…
that makes sense, doesn’t it?
I’m
struggling to see what’s at issue here… I myself have been a victim of positive
discrimination, but I see why it was happening and was necessary at the time… I
myself have been a victim of sexual harassment (one of many, in a particular
workplace) and I think it’s ridiculous when persons of narrow perspective
pretend that men cannot be victims of sexual violence… history is replete with
patterns of victims becoming perpetrators (just consider how child abuse
usually goes from generation to generation or Israel and the Palestinians)… BUT
it is more absurd to claim that …like that creep Bettina Arndt… that men are
equally the victims of family violence… more absurd to downplay the Shoah just because
some Jews have done bad things, just because Netenyahu is a creep…
…
we have to rely on facts and figures (the empirical stuff), appropriate
theoretical models and expert knowledge to understand social phenomena … of
course this gets harder in the era of fake news, when just by using that term we
have gone along with the coinage of the biggest news faker in history, or at
least since Stalin and Hitler
and
as for China … the idea that the home of Dickens-strength capitalist
exploitation and the greatest wealth disparities in the world today is somehow
the result of Marxist thought (or left-wing thought) is frankly obscene…
obscene in the same way that attributing
child abuse to the ideas of Jesus is… the people who indulge these fantasies
have motives, self-interested, self-congratulatory (and in the case of the US –
self-aggrandizing) motives…
…
disgusting, authoritarian and yes, fascistic as the regime in Beijing is, the
boot in from the Anglo Yank grovelling world of the last week truly appals …
and Smoko Morrison grovelling along to Uncle Sam… makes one want to chunder in
the old pacific sea…
of
course both empires – the crumbling flailing about Trump empire and the
burgeoning back on its feet now we’re the biggest and oldest and newest time to
get even now – they are both very scary and bad for the world… but it makes me
sick that Australia should be siding – against its own interests – and against
all reason – with US imperialism just at its least rational moment…
…
it doesn’t make me sick because I approve in any way of what Beijing’s up to …
it makes me sick that we cannot simply say these are not the ways … that we cannot say the WHO needs our support … it
could be better but without it we’re all fucked… it also makes me sick because
the echo of white Australia racism and older imperialisms is so strong in it …
and it makes me sick to see racist scum emboldened by the words of government
ministers physically attack Australians of Asian descent (or tourists or
students or temporary migrants)…
I
agree with so much of what you say
Re
free speech, resilience, openness, democracy and education... the value of the
compulsory vote
the
need to be still, the need to bump into…
the
dangers of wallowing, of persecution mania, chips on the shoulders
…
the nightmare weight of the past upon the minds of the living – that turns out
to be a tough one to shake off
…
even though everyone loves a bright new morning
equality
before the law
and
in health and in education
(which
is why the current gap between outcomes for Aboriginal people and everyone else
is unacceptable)
…
question is how to get to the bright new tomorrow of truly equal opportunity?
(it
seems to me that truth and reconciliation, apology for wrong and moral
restitution – these things are worth much more than their weight in gold… or
any kind of funding)
If
you love these things … and if above all you love and value PEACE (not to
mention prosperity in the sense of there being enough of the good stuff to be
worth sharing around) then you have to ask yourself who and what are the
greatest threats to peace, to prosperity, freedom, democrary…
And
the greatest threats in the world today are nationalism, the resurgent right
and its totalitarian and racist tendencies and eco-catastrophic unrestrained
capitalism …
The
core threat to the world of the nationalist agenda is not giving a fuck about
anyone else …
As
best represented in recent weeks by the US turning its back on the WHO … which
is to say who cares if a whole lot more foreign kids die of malaria and
starvation and so on… and who cares what the long term geo-political
consequences of that might be… well, fortunately UNICEF still cares and
fortunately Bill Gates does too…
There
simply are no ‘left wing’ leaders in the world today… the most left one
surviving I can think of right now is Jacinda Ardern … whom I nominate for
omnipotent deity (though I think she might be a bit too busy for that)…
…
not
taking oneself too seriously (being able to take the piss out of oneself …
which is as I recall where ‘politically correct’ was in the seventies --- a
kind of leftie in- joke where there were three categories – ideologically sound
[IS], ideologically unsound [IUS], and (biggest category) or all –
ideologically undecided [IUD]… but somehow this got hijacked by right wingers
with serious irony deficiency (v common in the US)
anyway,
I think I’ve dealt pretty comprehensively with the right wing myth of political
correctness … ( a genuine right wing conspiracy)
…
here’s a nice piece on it in The Guardian
that covers most of the relevant
territory
…
and as for so called identity politics, it’s more or less the same story… it’s
a right wing way of trying to put the minorities back in their box because they
might be a little threatening … notice how women’s groups and black activists
and migrant activists and on and on – they don’t talk about themselves doing
identity politics… they rarely form political parties based on those
issue-bases (and when they do, those entities never last long (though sometimes
they can have positive and even long-term positive effects … consider the
Aboriginal Tent Embassy in front of parliament and how that helped to keep
minds focussed)… but I think that in general such entities don’t last long
because of the inherent contradiction in seeking inclusion by exclusive means…
…
can there be a problem with focussing overly on one’s own disadvantage and the
injustices to which one is subject?
Absolutely … this is called a chip on the shoulder … best example I can
think of would be in the men’s rights activism so called of nasty persons like the
aforementioned Bettina Arndt… or white supremacist types (esp in Europe or the
US) – they are kind of a parody of people with a cause… but of course having no
sense of humour or irony they cannot see themselves as parodic…
Essentially
we may think of these as sadfucks who make our world more dangerous and less
pleasant
But
to a practical example –
consider
the case of Aboriginal disadvantage in Australia
…
just a few simple facts like
Aboriginal
life expectancy being 20 years less than yours or mine
Aboriginal
men being 30 times more likely to be imprisoned than you or I are
…
these are just the head of a long long list
There
isn’t to my knowledge an Aboriginal Political Party in Australia (though I
think there may have been such efforts in the past
…
but for the reasons mentioned above it would be doomed…
The
Maori seats in the NZ parliament going back to the Treaty of Waitangi I think,
are an interesting experiment in all of this
…
…
so here’s where the argument is tending … instead of these straw dogs
‘political correctness’ and ‘identity politics’ (or which we’re yet to see
concrete examples to take more seriously than the baker who doesn’t like gay
weddings…
A
much more useful paradigm is inclusion versus inclusion
In
other words if the goal is to build a society where the law is worth something
and where people of every kind can be equal before it then you have to work out
the means by which equality is possible …
That
was the case with the marriage equality debate / moment in Australian history …
gay people decided and campaigned convincingly to get a right that straight
people had always had… v much like votes for women a century earlier… in my
view only gay people should have had the right to vote on that issue… what
right do I have to say that someone with a different sexual orientation should
or should not possess a right that I take for granted? … it is an absurd
proposition and yet ten years ago I might have had serious doubts (as I recall
Julia Gillard did) about an idea that was a bit out there then … my doubt would
have been about not knowing whether or not this was something gay people
wanted… but, and although I know gay people who didn’t care about marriage
equality, this became clear over time
…
it was nice to see progress is possible when so many things are going
backwards, especially for the poor old earth…
…
of course it’s very sad that so many parts of the world remain to mired in
bigoted assumptions and hate that they can’t come at this kind of tolerance,
which is the only thing that can keep the world in the eight billion humans
sense going round
…
On
another, related, topic –
To
take symbols and statements at face value (the red flag for instance) is …
well… I think this is an unhelpful view … I don’t think that Trump is a very
stable genius because he tells me so… I make my own judgement
What
was the swastika MEANT to represent for the Nazis ? not what it means to us
Having
a crack at intolerance in the Islamic world – fair enough – big target … but
there’s no kind of religiously organised orthodoxy – Christians, Jews,
Buddhists gets away here – I can still smell Giordano Bruno burning at the
stake and he had a lot of company down through the ages
From
which I think it is fair to conclude that the opiate of the masses stuff was
spot on
The
bits of religion that are best – for instance in Buddhism and Daoism are so
because they are the least like religion in the organised sense
The
fact that laughter is always at someone’s expense is no reason to give up on
laughter and the idea that political correctness has killed stand up comedy is
… he he … a joke … it was funnier when you could do slapstick with spastics? Trip up the blind woman? But yes let’s mock all the religious
garments!
a funny thing happened
to me on the way to the firing squad
choosing between Hitler and Stalin feels uncomfortable
until you realize it’s because Stalin’s so much like Hitler you hate him
… of course, inside a Gulag, it will feel different
… so many habits in common, these two
if you started to write it all down
you might not live very long
… but that was once upon a time
today
brains have been well washed
love Trump
let’s hear it
FOUR MORE YEARS
they will be formative for someone
a funny thing happened to me on the way to the firing squad
I was thinking about Mao and also Zhou En Lai, Pol Pot, Idi Amin
why does Napoleon
never get a mention?
something in the
metrics or maybe it’s the brandy?
… you never think of
Charles Manson or Jack the Ripper
at a moment like this
but consider Caligula, Cortez, Pizarro, Genghis Khan
so many Magnificents and Terribles
the odd forgotten bloodthirsty pirate
you can blame kings and emperors and czars
the goes around comes around theory
a funny thing happened on the way to my reincarnation
karma? you’re kidding me
that can’t be right
even at the last
see spirits rise
here’s the second coming
dance in the old bones yet
believe on me
yeah, right
still there are random attacks of history
I was in Saudi on my way to a beheading
(very popular there)
turned out to be mine
still working out who it was I offended
have to think fast though
in China you get a bullet back of the head (economical)
the emperor reigns forever
the trick though is living so long
try coal mine
try fireworks factory
get a job at a sewing machine
in India they have Modi
someone will bowl him out
think! in the Philippines they’ll just burst into your tin hovel these
days
bang bang, don’t bother counting
out of your misery
so
who’s fucking up the world right now?
we come to
Duterte
Bolsonaro
Erdogan
Orban
every bully gets a kingdom
that’s how they hand them out
it’s never comfortable in the tumbril
why can’t they use the old carriages
they were plush and had suspension
but anyway it’s not for long
a funny thing happened
actually on the steps up to the guillotine
someone asked me what I believed
and before I could answer
they asked me why
of course one prefers a conversation
to this sniping gotcha stuff
I held up a little mirror then
to see which world was gone
what’s in a name?
something far far better
of course you can shrug off this sort of thing
can’t matter much at such a time
but I did have a think about guilty pleasures
contrition will do you no good
confess!
we who are about to die
w t f – do we have to salute you?
what difference would it make?
over heaven and under the earth?
them’s dangerous ideas
here’s some hemlock – easy with it
washes down a treat
which kinds of monster take freedom away?
and as I live and breathe
(not long)
a secret silent as the grave
… will they give me one of those?
I doubt it
they say you can’t take it with you
…just watch me
a little Lethe dip? why not?
cyanide capsule to clutch
and then we come to
the fool on the hill
the Trumped up worldfuck of our times
every totalitarianism is a fascism
there never was one without a nation
… it’s only ever in the service of a state…
or empire bloated in denial
socialism in one country was ‘our own fascism’
you wouldn’t have wanted to be
… well there’s actually quite a long list
some people survive just by being themselves
for others, that strategy’s poison
most people go peacefully in their sleep
that’s the dream run
hundred billion and counting
or there could be someone careless
could be a new disease
a funny thing happened to me on the way to the firing squad
I asked my how did I get here?
how did we?
they say the guillotined head has time for a haiku
but don’t try sonnets or villanelles
you might blurt a tanka out in the chair if the power’s on the blink
it’s muffled doggerel your hanged will spew under that choking hood
but for the firing squad, you get a smoke
can make a speech
always the joker
and why not
have you noticed how nothing ever happens when you’re starving to death
or take malaria for example
dad had it from the war
but emphysema killed him
very early on he asked ‘who is my enemy?’
it was what my father wanted to know
when the Reds locked up his mother
for not teaching their way
and then the fascists did it too
they weren’t called that yet then …
in the end though they weren’t fascist enough
no stomach for slaughtering Jews
Hitler had to do it for them
liberation?
not the nicest
but some days you have to choose
check in with the worldometer, you’ll get the idea
know the best medicine?
a funny thing happened – not telling
born free?
I don’t think so
plenty of chains to lose
the rest is silence
so they say
I wouldn’t know myself
.
In closing for now let me say that there are times when you really do have
to decide which side you’re on… I think of my father in South America in ’38
deciding he would give up his nationality for the rest of his life because it
was his duty to fight fascism and not to be consumed by it … (thinking about
this because that’s where I’m up to in his autobiography right now)
And while we’re in that part of the world, a tribute to a role model
there…
trad. emma villazón
La
Chascona
(Casa
de Neruda en Santiago)
todas
estas partes son la casa
formas
suavizadas por el tacto
por
la tinta, por el tipo y el color iluminado
con
dignidad de manos
este
sol invernal, postrero para nosotros,
me
dejó verter una bebida
y
todo alrededor, risa obesa
por
un altar de estrellas
el
testigo de los árboles
una
casa descuartizada para hacernos enteros
amigos
pueblan los paseos entre
galera
bajo cubierta, cama arriba
y
el bar veraniego para coronar la vista
un
estudio del fin del mundo
palabras
lo llevaron hacia una frenética calma
canción
–sin ningún acompañamiento requerido
el
amor es el secreto aquí
vertemos
a través de la tumba de las palabras
homenajes
de todos los pueblos
ponemos
corazones un momento aquí
para
que su última pena
permanezca
con nosotros
recuerda,
para eso hemos venido
también
amo el océano que compartimos
hasta
que tuve quince años
cuando
eso viene de verdad
nuestra
cruz es solo de estrellas
la
desolación de una playa sigue con nosotros hoy
y
tú —capitán de tierra— la abeja que rescataste
de
una telaraña está libre y también hoy con nosotros
porque
las flores nos enseñaron amor, los pájaros enseñaron la canción
porque
la palabra amable se encendió y el mundo fue uno
y
la muerte, sí la muerte —sabemos que estás viniendo
estos
son restos mortales
una
piedra secreta nos besó y sus cerros están con nosotros
solo
es cuestión de la respiración
somos
la pequeña tormenta
en
un mar esmeralda
este
es el primer amanecer en que despertamos para
espumar
que el viento mueve —esta es nuestra orilla
marina,
cielo y tierra de una bandera
yo
entierro nuestra despedida en estas vidas
sabemos
que la muerte está llegando
aquí
está la estatua —elegante, ágil, como raíces invisibles
que
llegan hasta sus antípodas
hombre
y mujer dónde están ahora?
bombas
caen en palacio, la muerte debe estar cerca
pero
lo olvido
este
regreso es tu triunfo —siempre estuviste
acá
fuego
aúreo
soy
el ronquido esclavo
y
así se va el poema
cargado
de luna
recuerda
que esto fue una vez un mundo nuevo
hubo
una vez un Cristo que nos iba a salvar
bpero
ahora es el turno de que miremos arriba
hijos
e hijas de las estrellas
ahora,
hermanos, hermanas, de una pena
temblamos
al cadalso de pasos experimentados
sirenas
corren por Santiago
como
si su vigilia nunca debiera terminar
la
voz sigue todavía conmigo
continúas
hablando
tu
voz de todos los tiempos
mientras
yo escuche
habrá
luz
todo
esto
para
vivir en un jardín con un mar
y
todo lo que eso ofrece
para
extender el banquete pródigamente
para
vivir con montañas
en
el amor de la gente
para
ver a través de este cielo, de estas ventanas
el
simple milagro de que la verdad es un trabajo
de
que hacemos el pan cotidiano
La
Chascona
(Neruda’s
house in Santiago)
the
house is all these parts
ways
smoothed by touch
by
ink, by type and colour lit
with
dignity of hands
this
winter sun last for us
here
let me pour a drink
and
all around, fat laughter
for
a shrine of stars
the
witness of the trees
a
house dismembered to make us whole
friends
populate the walks between
galley
below decks, bed above
the
summer bar to crown the view
a
world’s end study
words
worked him to a frenzied calm
song
– no accompaniment required
love
is the secret here
we
pour through the tomb of words
tribute
of all lands
lay
hearts a moment here
for
his last sorrow
still
with us
remember,
that’s why we’ve come
I
too love the ocean we shared
till
I was fifteen years old
when
it comes to truth
our
cross is just of stars
that
desolation of a beach still with us here today
and
you – land captain – the bee you rescued
from
the web of a spider free with us here today too
because
the flowers taught us love, birds taught song
because
the kind word kindled and the world was one
and
death, yes death – we know you are coming
these
are all mortal remains
a
secret stone kiss and the heights are in us
it’s
only a matter of breathing
we’re
the tiny storm
in
an emerald sea
this
is the first dawn we wake to
foam
the wind takes – this is our edge
sea,
sky and the soil of a flag
I
bury our farewell in these lives
we
know death is coming
here
is the statue – sleek, lithe, like the unseen roots
that
reach to their antipodes
man
and woman where are they now?
bombs
fall on the palace and death must be near
but
I forget it
this
return is your triumph – you’re always here
gold
fire
I’m
the slave snoring
and
there goes the poem
plenty
of moon
remember
that this was once a new world
there
was Christ once would save us
but
now it’s our turn to look up
sons
and daughters of the stars
now
brothers, sisters of a grief
we
tremble the scaffold of practiced steps
sirens
run through Santiago
as
if his wake must never end
the
voice still with me
you
keep speaking
your
voice of all times
as
long as I listen
there
will be light
all
this
to
live in a garden with the sea
and
all it brings
to
spread the banquet lavishly
to
live with the mountains
in
the people’s love
to
see through this sky, these windows
the
simple miracle that truth is work
we
make our daily bread
…
Wow,
the word ‘turd’ turned up About
33,600,000 results (0.36 seconds) … and I happen to know it’s
a real thing…
Or let’s try will ‘o the wisp
About
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Now we’re in the billions and last time I looked …
still doesn’t exist…
And no amount of wishing…
But can be a lovely idea of course…
If you take it the right way…
Of course it disturbs me that you hold some of these
opinions you espouse
… whether or not I could blame Rupert Murdoch is a
moot point when there is so much for which to blame him… Rupert Murdoch is the
single greatest threat to democracy in the world today
(and of course this fact will matter more or less
depending on what value you place on democracy and what things you think it
might threaten…)
… and yes I think there are fuckwits of all political
persuasions… of course there are … power corrupts … in academia and likewise in
the arts this is the most sickening when it corrupts judgement…
Of course, persons of any race can be racists … I
think that it’s logical concomitant of the idea
Dogma has to be fought – with reason and with
imagination, with openness to contradiction and to other views… these are
aspects of liberation – as per the
Paolo Freire model – which is all about listening to the people, the oppressed…
it’s not about accusing or vilifying them… it’s about providing the means to
people to understand the world and express a view about it… and the means of
making their own future…
I didn’t know a conversation was meant to ‘help’
either of us, per se… I thought it was just what friends do… to talk … and in
these times, and for poets who’ve been at it for a while, on paper/screen seems
an apt place to talk… and yes, it’s good if helps one to work things out – what’s
important, where one stands, where to go, how to go on… all important stuff
… I guess conversation then is a kind of gift
(you see how in just one paragraph you have changed
my mind, opened a new way of seeing)
You don’t think the Trump presidency represents right
wing resurgence? Wow! But I do hope yr right that it’s an aberration… I
actually gave you a whole list of right wing resurgences in the poem above… a
by no means exhaustive list … I think fascism (or near fascisms) is/are rising
in the world today
I do resent the gaslighting accusation – it’s
nonsensical (well, a gaslighter would say that)… but to be absolutely clear, I
really think that ‘identity politics’ and ‘political correctness’ are essentially
convenient fictions popular among right tribes … note I do not deny the
existence of a left (among whose tribes I have counted myself for all my adult
life), I merely think you’ve made a straw dog of em/ of us
Here’s a definition from google by the way (font of
all wisdom, of course) –
Gaslighting is a tactic in which a person or entity, in order to
gain more power, makes a victim question their reality. It works much better
than you may think. ... For example, in the movie
Gaslight (1944), a man manipulates his wife to the point where she thinks she
is losing her mind.
Here’s Psychology
Today on the warning signs
I’m not sure how reputable a source that is… but I do
think it’s interesting how reversible such accusations could be in the sphere
of politics
… You deny my reality by saying the left are
authoritarian monsters and promoting fictions like political correctness
… I deny yr reality by saying that there is a worldwide
right wing threat to all we hold dear…
There is a symmetry to this that Lyotard I think
captures really interestingly discussing Holocaust denial in his book The differend
…
I don’t think there’s more I can say really
You are as wrong as you believe me to be
(nice to get things in
proportion)…
Fundamentally this left right
thing is about who sits on which side of the speaker, so you could say that by
definition the right has always already won (though I do not believe that is an
acceptable definition)
…and yes, happy to stop discussing politics here… it’s
obvious neither of us will convince the other
But I should say in closing the topic that it must
have been clear to you from early on where my political commitments and beliefs
lay (and I’m happy to acknowledge some are ‘beliefs’ and that there is ‘faith’
to keep, though not of a religious kind) … They haven’t really changed…
My commitments vary with evidence and fact (with the
objective conditions as these change) but I declared myself a socialist hedonist at an early age… and
before I’d really encountered Epicurus … I expressed the idea then and now
again – everyone should have a good time
… let’s make that the goal… yes, there are some things in the way … and what
about all the other-than-human creatures (of whom we eat seventy billion a
year, not counting the fish)? … still and all I absolutely don’t think life is suffering or
that there are any cosmic punishments or rewards in store… if there were then
it would be our sensible duty to ignore them and carry on being as good to
ourselves and each other as we possibly can be…
It does sadden me to think you think I’ve had some
kind of dream run in life…
Luck? Yes I was born in the right skin in the right
country at a good time… I had parents who really loved and cared for me, and
who were great role models of hard work, persistence, adventure and imagination…
and who were part of the worldwide struggle against fascism that kept Australia
free… I had a free education and I took it as far as I could go… I have been
able to express myself, to be social, to be a hermit, to be home, to be away,
as I liked, because of the precious freedoms my imperfect society afforded me… I
have been lucky in love and to be loved, wise enough to have not overdone
substances so far… And I’ve had the
privilege of being able to share with others my imperfect words, images, ideas…
I have been the kind of teacher/mentor who has helped many students in various
parts of the world to realize their creative potential… I have friends
everywhere and I really try to listen to them, and not only when they agree
with me…
… perhaps being a teacher (or having been) is the
most important thing for me… that kind of sharing – of skill and knowledge – is
always about sharing power…
I have observed a tendency for power to attract
fuckwits… Trump being the clearest contemporary avatar of the fact…
But I also know that there are plenty of cops who go
into the police because they want a safer society, teachers who want to help people
to learn, doctors who want to heal… in Chinese philosophy, if I had to choose a
Confucianist, I’d choose Mencius – because even if Xunxi were right (that
people basically are fuckwits) it would still be better to think of things the
other way… it’s a little like Pascal’s wager concerning the probability of God’s
existence (which I’m sure I would have found very convincing at that time)…
As far as ‘successes’ are concerned, I think I’ve
worked pretty hard over a long period of time, taken a lot of risks and
knockbacks, thrown a lot of hats into a lot of rings and had many swallowed up
in the flames… or gone gurgling down into the mire…
I mean to say I applied for a vastly greater number
of things than I got …
I know there’s a lot of suspicion around competitions
and likewise around peer reviewing in academia … fair enough, BUT to
consistently succeed in BLIND competitions is about the best measure of quality
available to us while still breathing above ground… unless you want to count
sales or royalties (and I’d rather not go there)
It’s posterity will tell… or not …
Do you think I am not disappointed at how
under-appreciated my work is? This might
almost serve as definition of a poet in the English-speaking world… but
disappointment is rarely helpful baggage… take only what’s required on the
voyage…
Do I deserve to be discovered? Not so different from
asking if the cockroach I just squashed deserved to die… it just had to stay
outside and it would have all been okay… though some small mammal may have
snacked…
We just do what we have to do… it is though nice when
hard work is acknowledged and even if not much can be claimed for the results
I also think I’ve devoted a lot of time and energy to
building community through friendship … which in my naïve way I suppose I take
to be the direction in which both testaments, the Dao de Jing, the works of
Marx and Mill and above all Epicurus have pointed me … je ne regrette rien
spreading the love … that’s the Jesus thing I like
calm and focus – there’s some Buddha I take on and
why the image of Buddha is always a reminder to pay attention to the here and
now… (as every haiku ought to be)
the pre-Socratics and all the origin texts from
everywhere – the effort to understand on the basis of so little known…
philosophy to understand the
world and more – there Marx’s 11th Feuerbach thesis
to better the world!
Liberty! – there’s Mill
the whole of our parliaments considered together (back
to the Althing, back to the Areopagus, the Forum) and argument and deciding –
these are who we are … we in the sense of me knowing and generalising my
tradition (while hoping to respect the others, at least to the extent they’ll
respect mine… and in the spirit of generosity and luck and privilege… maybe
just a little more)
Socrates, Plato and all of their interlocutors… the
conversation… and Aristotle – even better
every day I discover more members of the cast
(life’s too short to meet them all)
more and more of them are poets
the ones with religious leanings slough off
… churches and temples … just not very helpful
and that goes for pyramids (all sorts, every monument
to death)
no – we need to stick with life while we’ve got the
puff
… poetry as part of the broader world-bettering
project !
Because art – not as object or commodity – because art
as the thing you do
(garden, novel, painting, dance, music making,
publishing, collaborating, making conversation
because ART)
is the opposite of alienation
ART IS THE CURE
!
.
I would propose that if we choose to go one
(and I’m perfectly happy to stop)…
we should do it by poems alone
and so here’s mine for today:
playing with the
tomograph
imagine me
sliced right down the middle
equal halves
and everyone can see in
like that cow Damien Hirst did
equal halves
dark ages and here’s my face to light
who to be?
which one?
think of a balanced diet
or mongrel me
go wild with the knife
all kinds of cuts
and ways to baste
the city and my woods
where did I stop being this that?
make a cartwheel once we were
(Aristophanes’ idea)
according to Plato, as he recalls
(see how third hand it all goes)
takes a while to work it out
by I’m the magic pudding
(that’s why always running off)
music and paint
I must balance with words
when out of puff
walk the walk (how else?)
I swam in a pool of genes
came clean
towelled off
nobody’s ancestor
what they knew would chill the blood
this is how I have my nose
curly locks
wry ironies
such lungs
the sturdy heart I tricked
think of it as a club
the family you won’t know
accept a slice
please won’t you?
they took off their pants
so I could be
each morning erect a statue to fact
and too much information
because I am them
and they are me
it’s all a raft to cling
I and everyone goes under
someone said
‘what they don’t know won’t hurt’
but here we are wondering
will it be sinister
what if murderers?
someone has to have been
stories they never told us
ones they were never told
these must hold the key
as with the air we breathe
once theirs
and pass it on
they forgot so we’d be free
and ask no thanks
but heaven knows them
cloud down glad watch over
as eyes of an eternity
live up and make a reputation
or we could lower the tone
whichever way
we’re in the dark
joy weeps, won’t it
what are the odds?
(that’s a thing you hear)
just a body in a billion years
imagine me
sliced right
must not
must never
think of them
but always wake to light
>>>
a poet's fantasy #1
we write for the time
when
poetry will be
broadcast
24 hours a day
from stations dedicated
by epoch and genre
with the right kind of
music accompanying
broadcast by poets all
shapes and sizes
in every language too
no advertising
(no forms debased!)
the work will be
occasional and abstract
pastoral historical
comical
allegorical
every syllable
gospel
we write for the day
poems will be draped
from public buildings
from slam palaces (once
casinos, banks)
from the humblest hovel
no one will buy a tent
but shows its poem to
the sun and stars
the cardboard street
dweller
will be ashamed not to
have some verses
penned for fairweather
spells
for donations
every event public and
private
will be presaged by
poetry
introduced with verses
of the right kind
of proper weight –
solemnity
piss taken too in equal
parts
seduction is the work
of verse
it's how the race goes
on
and off the rails as
well
everything must be out
of control
and in time-honoured
measures –
iamb, trochée,
dithyramb best
there's a logical
conclusion
we have to get beyond
we shall ambivalate
neologize
no longer shall we die
for words
we'll make em up
instead
we're much past reason
with the heart
and delve down deep
words under words
and over sky
who knows what we'll
fish up?
there's a better
world a comin'
perhaps no one is
listening today
but we have already
invented a future where
the legislators will be
acknowledged
parliament will be full
of them
the people with the
broadest minds
will hone the rules
down to a few
and this will go on
everywhere
around the piano
behind a guitar
wherever rhythm finds
the day
words will follow suit
the xenophobes won't
even line
history's dustbin
suits will have been picked
threadbare
because we'll all be
thinking then
I'd rather be making a
poem
a song
a painting
a garden
a house
as perfect as a poem
all
the fools in charge
the generals will have
come to their feeble senses
and graduated to the
nursery rhyme
apt saws will keep them
from doing harm
a stitch in time will
save them nine
they'll look before
they leap
there won't be weapons
any more
or borders, guards
every dog will be
beatific
poets!
a season of love is
coming
it's not a kingdom
it's on Earth
and we won't say
republic
the whole of the world
will be out of doors
we'll call our polity
the picnic
and we'll continue
afternoon
as long as suits
and we'll imbibe
freely but wisely
we'll each of us
be muse and mentor
standard bearer, hack
who is there won't
anthologize,
while days away in
praise of skies?
we'll cut our purse to
suit the cloth
once money's from the
picture
poems will be the
currency!
Ginsberg wants to pay
with good looks
but some of us are
godawful ugly
still sing like angels
(better, cause we're
real)
poetry's the precious
thing
not so for rarity
but for abundance
appreciated!
known!
poems in the letterbox
every magazine's for
poetry
and every poem's
accepted too
not because standards
have fallen
far from it
no, because every poem
is good
everyone knows how
poetry's done
cause poetry's for
everyone
and rings in the air
when read aloud
and though still chock
with mysteries
every poem is
understood
because in the time to
be
poetry will be the way
of things
poetry will rule
ubiquitous poetic
spirit
as wise as worldly
philosophers bow
before the fact concise
made popular,
particular
made portable
made prompt
but hark I hear a
blowfly drone
there is a smell of
something rots
was creature once as we
it seems a long way to
the light
when you sing from the
foot of the well
yes poets, we write
from dark times
and darker
this was a year of
darkness coming
we may be playing with
ourselves now
we have that old
defence
we're doing the best
we can
we write now for the
time when
truth has set all free
for the world come
green
we're to observe
make paradise our
paean!
we're bringing truth
back into the picture,
with justice, with
freedom, with right
but we must compose a
way there too
a way that can't be
known yet
begins with some simple
words
they won't swallow
manifesto
if you call it that
these days
o brave new world that
we're beginning
no church could be as
broad as this
as ours
the hundred flowers are
blooming
the hundred styles and
modes contend
here's Cassandra
poets, on our
collective tombstone
these LED lights
coloured, flashing
BEWARE WHAT YOU WISH
FOR
fair enough, she has a
point
and there's Zarathustra
railing from heights
but let's not let that
get fascistic
Blake weighs black with
joy
Whitman wags his tail
Dickinson's still
working in doors
Sappho's on the way
o poets
we live for such a time
beyond ourselves
we live
!
I like the Descartes motto... v nice
ReplyDeletedon't know why you keep writing 'only Christians'
... do you think people who take a dim view of George Pell think all Christians are expendable ?
or that child abusing imams or suicide bombers are okay?
... these are just bizarre fantasies...
or that somebody beat up that ignorant hurtful bigot, Israel Folau (yd have to be brave to try)
apart from that I agree with pretty well all you say
... blaming 'the left'- the amorphous left - for the crimes of Stalin and Soviet Russia is simply bizarre ...
1968 is when the Stalinists left the communist party in Australia and communist party from then on was highly critical of the
Soviet Union and of China
(yes, 68 was late and some were slow to catch on ... BUT IT IS MORE THAN FIFTY YEARS AGO)
... the splinter parties that were 'loyal' suckered by the Chinese regime and the Soviet regime were TINY
and the Communist Party itself dissolved around 1990
not so big then either
... so what 'the left' in Australia or anywhere today has to do with gulags and other totalitarian crimes against humanity is simply
beyond my comprehension
the idea that anyone with left politics could condone or make excuses for outfits like Islamic State or Al Quaeda is simply bizarre
these are ultraa fascist organisations ... they make 'national' socialism seem rational...
but as to the crusades ... yes it's important to understand why and how the world came to be as it is ... and precisely that the insanity
particularly the Iraq invasion was that it created Islamic State
but there's a big difference between understanding the relevant bits of history
and condemning yourself and everyone else to re-live it
or saying either
we deserve what we get
or
they deserve what they get
these are not paths to peace...
and this is the Netenyahu issue
... it isn't only that there's a problem with taking the Koran too literally or prescriptively
... Exodus and Leviticus and Deuteronomy ... they're all part of the same problem...
which is blind bigoted tribal obedience to dogma ... thinking of the world as just one story which makes
us the righteous one ... nationalism is a direct descendant of this form of thought ... and fascism is the highest form
... fascisms one should say
...
but yes to Keats and negative capability
I don't think we have art without it